Is HiveFest still Relevant?

in Reflections6 days ago

I have never been to HiveFest, even though I would like to go. Each year there is always something that has held me back, whether it be a health issue, a family issue, or just a lack of money. I did go to Poland in 2018 for Steemfest though, and it was a really good time and I still talk to many of the people I met there. However, it was also a different time than it is now, and a different kind of community.


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It was more focused.

A common complaint about the trending page was a lot of the content was "inward-facing", meaning it was only relevant to people who were on the platform. A lot of discussions were around developments, hardforks, initiatives, and a plethora of opinions about what was needed to make the blockchain better, and a lot of suggestions and on-chain discussion of ideas and possibilities.

The main complaint was:

"Why would outside people want to see Hive content?"

Well.... the answer is simple.

Because it is interesting and unique.

And what all that content and discussion did was inform people and get them up to speed on the technical and social aspects of the community that they likely didn't have very little experience with before. It meant that a large number of people were able to discuss aspects of Hive that were important to them. Now though, a lot of users know next to nothing about the way the platform actually works, and as such - it is just a platform.

Hive is an experience.

But that is my opinion. I have this because the more people actually engage with the blockchain and get experience with different parts of it, the more engaged and more embedded they become in the community. And what that translates into is, a stronger, healthier, more diverse community. And I think that is what is missing now and why the question should be asked about HiveFest,

Is it still relevant?

Again in my opinion....

Yes it is.

But, it comes with the caveat that it can't just be an event that is organised once a year in a place for a group of less than a hundred to hang out together, it has to be supported all year. Not the event itself of course, but the development and engagement of the community that supports HiveFest.

Hive needs more people who are interested in Hive.

I know, that sounds a bit silly. But even a lot of the witnesses seem disengaged and unwilling to be a leader in the community, to build a diverse community around themselves and their own initiatives, and be part of the daily conversation.

When is the next hardfork?

Shouldn't I know? There was one that was scheduled for Q! 2025 - did it happen? I don't think so, but I have no idea. Other than the announcement a year ago from @blocktrades, I don't think I have heard anything since, so I assume not. Of course, I don't even know if a hardfork is needed, but my point is that a lot of this discussion around the platform itself, really engaged the community.

The "terrible" inward-facing content is content that can't be found anywhere else, unlike a lot of the content that people submit to the chain here now. That means that it is unique. Not only that though, it is the kind of content that brings most of the community together (not often in agreement) because it is something that is common to everyone on Hive, because here we are, on Hive. It makes sense to have more Hive content here that sits alongside other more mainstream content, because it is a unifying factor. Not only that, as a potential investment avenue, the more people understand about Hive, the more likely they are to be part of the discussion, understand the technology, and invest into the potential.

Hive isn't just a platform for users, it is a platform for everyone.

HiveFest shouldn't be about being on holiday with a group of random internet people, it should be about a group of engaged Hive users coming together and discussing and planning Hive into the future. At the technology layer, the economic layer, the social layer - and the overall experiential layer. It should be inspiring, especially in a world that is becoming increasingly volatile and plagued by disconnection and social degradation.

So...

My goal is to go to HiveFest (if it is held) next year. But until then, I am going to start increasing my own engagement with Hive and writing about topics that are inward-facing in the hope to strengthen the Hive community on the social layer. It might not be interesting to a lot of people and at times might be overlapping. But I believe that Hive is awesome and the more people who think the same, the better the community will do at all levels, including the mainstream content level.

Everyone on Hive wins, when the community is engaged.

Engage and give your opinions below.

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Taraz
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I may join you depending on where and when it is. I agree Hive is relevant and for one enjoy many of the posts on Hive especially after spending time getting to know the various personalities behind the posts. Everyone is unique and it comes out in the writing styles and you would know this if you read the various articles day in and day out. Hive fest should be about moving hive forward and discussing issues like the DHF because I do not think I have heard anyone find any positives with the current format.

There were several discussions at this HiveFest about ways to improve DHF-related spending and I think they were very productive. Only time will tell, of course.

Well that is great to hear as I do think the DHF is a great tool used correctly in order to grow HIVE. I have not been impressed thus far and currently raises more questions than answers. Thanks for letting me know.

The DHF needs some kind of an overhaul for sure. It has a lot of potential, but hasn't been used that well so far.

That is how I see it and feel it is a wasted tool for Hive growth and that needs to change through better managing and planning with accountability as this affects the entire hive community.

Hardfork is set for November 19th.

Thank Dan - Will there be a pre-release notes post?

Yes, I plan to make one after I get back from hivefest and tag the new versions of everything.

Looking forward to it :)

SteemFest 2018 was my last "Crypro-Fest". Was a honour for me to have you on my side during closing dinner in that salt mine.

It was fun, wasn't it? A good week all up! Hope you are well mate.

The fork didn't happen in Q1. The current version of witness software is 1.27.11. After a hard fork it will go to version 1.28.0 and all witnesses will have to upgrade or not get witness rewards.

Last I heard it is a couple months away...

BT says Nov 19th is the current date for it. :)

I have seen it :) Would be interesting to see what will happen during the hard fork, it will be my first one.

Apart from the relevance, it's great to finally be able to add faces to the names you know and interact on a frequente basis on the blockchain. I went to Hivefest in Amsterdam in 2022, and made friends I still meet in real life nowadays. A lot could be said about passing the message outside our echo chamber, but Hivefest is definitely an awesome initiative! Hope I'll manage to go for a second time, let's see if the stars align next year.

For sure! The face to face interaction should be the goal of so much of Hive, where real-world meetups are common. Maybe we can meetup next year!

Who knows! Maybe it will be in Europe and the timing goes right. Will definitely keep an eye on it. Cheers!

I think it would be better if HiveFest could include not only Hive people but also big crypto holders. Also, discussions on Hive's hard fork, blockchain development and ultimately Hive's development become important. Hopefully we can get something good out of this and we look forward to your presence there.

I think it would be better if HiveFest could include not only Hive people but also big crypto holders.

Perhaps it should be organised to coincide with some other kind of event outside of Hive.

I would love to see again some of the inspirational posts you wrote about Hive and all that it could be.

Yeah, I miss writing some of them too. Hopefully they will be more inspirational than my ones on the state of current society! .D

I voted yes. Hivefest is still something that creates the sense of community and brings the community together, even if not big masses. I would love to go someday, but don't really want to spend big to go far.

I also miss the earlier days contests. Not for prizes, these were quite irrelevant, like @photogames did it. It brought a lot of people together and was such a fun. Or other initiatives like "How did your username became to be?" and hundreds of people making posts about it. I haven't seen this kind of stuff for a long time. Or I don't know where to look to.

I would love to go someday, but don't really want to spend big to go far.

It essentially has to be in Europe or SE Asia. The US (especially now) is far too problematic for visas.

Yeah, those competitions used to be popular. The was also the silly, but fun "colour" one, where each day of the week was a different colour prompt. As long as they aren't spammy, I don't mind. When people use the prompt to put effort into creating something cool, I am all for it.

Very well said! You’ve made an excellent point about the value of unique, Hive-focused content — it truly strengthens the sense of community and identity within the platform. By creating discussions that everyone on Hive can relate to, we not only deepen engagement but also attract more people to understand and appreciate the ecosystem’s potential. Insightful and thought-provoking perspective! 👏

There are so many sides to it that people can get interested in, or at least, partially interested in that they would find empowers them on the platform.

Wanted to go but to far away for me , planned to go in Amsterdam didn't work with my health back then , wanted to go this year to Aachen and again my health said no .
I've always liked networking with people on events like that.I'll just have to wait until there is an event in thearea again . so i did vote YES .

There are so many life challenges currently it is hard for me too. But, I am determined to make it to another one. It would definitely help if HIVE was at 1.40 instead of 0.14. :)

it would help indeed if the value was higher but would you atrack the right kind of people to keep a social platform social 😎

Hive truly deserves more attention from its leaders.
The project shows great potential for success, but I sense there's a lack of focus on exploiting Hive's strengths.
Promotion is good, but not sufficient.
I believe there should be a discussion about finding easier ways and means to reach the largest number of people and gain new users. In my opinion, the best way to do this is to introduce Hive in a practical, not technical, way, without explaining decentralization and the like. Once people encounter the terminology of decentralization and crypto, they are put off because they don't understand the concept and think it's complicated, which dwindles their interest in the project as a whole.
There's also an innovative and effective way to introduce Hive, which I hope the project leaders will adopt: organizing competitions on traditional Web2 platforms. One of the conditions for the competition is to register on the Hive platform in a simple manner, with prizes in the form of Hive tokens. New, interested users can then register on the platform and gradually learn about it without fear.

Most people these days have some understanding about tokenization, but the thing they don't have are true communities that function with them. The technology is only one aspect of it. What is more important is for people to understand that it isn't an oddity, but a way of living life and interacting with others.

Life works in weird ways. In the past I wanted to travel to Hivefest in bangkok. Now I am not sure if I would go even if Hivefest would be here in Lithuania. I would likely use that money to buy HP/HBD instead.

What made you change your mind?

In the past I liked a girl from Hive and wanted to meet her. It was not meant to be so now I have no reason to go.

I also think that the HIVE community needs more engagement in the year, not just one during the year. Thus, it would be kinda ads of HIVE, which could bot be done in years. However, some people on HIVE are organizing these meets in Europe ;)

It would be cool to see some representatives from the various global meetups end up at Hivefest also.

Hive is truly a unique platform that am certain a lot of will appreciate once they get to know about it. It takes a while to adjust (especially if you're used to the algorithm feeding you garbage on the big social media platforms), but is gold once you get the hang of it.

I wish more people would really spend time learning about it and engaging with each other, rather than just looking to earn. They are making it a job, not a lifestyle. This should be a way of life!

Steemfest in Poland sounds epic! 🙌 Hope you make it to a future HiveFest! Maybe we'll see racing updates from there! 😉

Would be nice to go again!

I voted relevant.

Even if there are 50 participant, I think we should have it. Why? Because, face to face interactions matters. I think we should choose the venue wisely and spend less. I hope we are doing that already. This year is was reasonably timed for me, but at the last moment my wife's Algeria trip showed up. It is very hard of us to travel during school year, it is basically impossible if one of us is not in town.

I will try next year.

Why? Because, face to face interactions matters.

This is what I wonder is being lost on many people. Maybe the younger think that face to face is no longer relevant?

I will try next year.

It's a date!

I voted "relevant" as I know in any business even during AI times people buy people, they do not buy a product - the decision is based on trust in people that implement, in a person or a team.

Hence it is important to meet each other - if the format is ideal maybe, maybe not.

What makes me positive is that I heard by some people attending in KL mainly @sorin.cristescu that indeed discussions happened and comments by Dan here encourages that we might find a solution also on DHF spendings, our focus and such. We need to work as a community and discuss without fear.

Regarding "inward-facing content" I am not sure - I think we talk too much about ourselves here - but sometimes we should know more from the inside too as the HF stuff you mentioned.

As someone who has been on Hive for a few years, I agree with you. The first year I joined, I saw a lot of technical posts. Even though I didn't understand them, I read them hoping to learn something. These days, I rarely see them. It seems like there are fewer new tools and initiatives related to Hive. I've never been able to attend a Hivefest, and I really want to go one day. I hope the next Hivefest will be in Turkey. I'm ready to do whatever I can to help make that happen.

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I still think it's important as a kind of highlight of the year. However, there are also more and more local events that are easier to attend, on all continents, from Hive Hubs to Creator Days, etc.

If only they'd have one in Australia 🦘 ... Then I'd go ..

I have a bunch of KDE-related rss feeds for no other reason than they came preloaded with Akgregator (the feedreader component of the Kontact suite) and they have Akademy which happens every year in various countries, and OpenStreetMap has State of the Map every year as well so don't see any reason why Hivefest wouldn't be any less relevant.

And don't they normally have talks and stuff? I don't see anything wrong with it doubling as a holiday with your online friends XD

What did I miss, why hardforking now? o_O

Good luck getting to the next Hivefest :D

It has never been more tel

I think, like many relationships, Hive has hit a sort of plateau. We're fine and we tolerate each other's company well enough, but it does seem like people have lost the excitement that was in Krakow.

Then again, I'm not one to speak. I'm only a blogger. I struggle to follow the techy parts of the blockchain. Still, I remember a lot more struggling a few years ago. Now, it's just coming here because it's what we've done so long. I realize I'm not as excited as I used to be about what Hive could become, though still in a placid (though deep) way, happy it exists.

That being said, I'd say yes because it's a closer answer to "it could be again" than saying no. Only time will tell. If it's in Europe, maybe see you at the next one :)

Yeah, I think it is still relevant, but I doubt I will ever be able to go. My wife and I just can't afford to travel like that and if we could, there are other places outside the country she would much prefer to go than hang out with a bunch of my online nerdy crypto friends.

Hive Fest was near me this time but I already had plans for the weekend and couldn't shift my schedules around. Let's see where they will hold it next year!