More vindication.
For nearly two decades, I have been espousing the harm that our media habits have, where individualism has disconnected us from each other through ever fine slices of identity to make us feel special, without doing anything. And how this has led us to be polarised across every aspect of our reality, leaving us in a constant adversarial position with everyone. We have become less patient, less attentive, and hyper-focused on how we feel, acting on our emotions before we validate whether they are warranted or not. On the "social" internet, this comes through as point-scoring against the enemy, which is anyone, no matter the harm caused, all to get a bit of attention. So I wasn't surprised to read about some of the findings in a new book (in Finnish), written by two psychotherapists and psychologists.

Speaking to a newspaper:
Nevalainen and Kaski told the paper that an emphasis on individualism and one-upmanship in the 21st century has led people to place more emphasis on their own feelings and personal rights. At the same time, they said, people's ability to concentrate has diminished — which might be why they have a tendency to be offended or hurt by others' opinions.
"People are on their mobile phones and aren't necessarily focusing on what they're doing together anymore,"
The result, they say, is that people don't listen to each other but instead focus on their own feelings and experiences.
"The connection between other people is broken."
Broken indeed.
The remedy they provided:
As a possible remedy to the problem, Nevalainen suggests that people accept that they cannot control the opinions of others and that it's important to stop and think before reacting. They said that learning emotional skills is important for both children and adults — let the other person have their say and then follow up. Kaski said the most important thing is to keep in mind that everyone makes mistakes and that no one is perfect.
Seems pretty practical, doesn't it? Except of course, that in order to develop any kind of skill, whether it be acceptance of reality or emotional growth, it takes practice. And the problem is that people are not spending their time in environments where they are encouraged to develop their emotional state or physical skills. Instead, the majority of us, many now from the day they were born, are in spaces where it encourages the antithesis of personal control and responsibility. We spend our time in digital worlds that incentivise victimhood behaviours, polarised arguments, and fast thinking.
So this is the behaviour that gets built into our habits.
And as we do more of it, it becomes the model of "who we are" and therefore, another point of identity that we feel is part of us, that we cannot affect. That other people have to accept in us, even though we are not accepting of the various quirks of other people. Our negative aspects are no longer traits to mitigate, conquer and overcome, they are things that are the reason we can't. And then we expect to have all the good things in life from people who we expect to act in accordance with our expectations of them, which happens to be exactly what we want with no consideration to who they are.
For instance, I have talked with lots of people who have "given up" on having a relationship, because they keep getting hurt in them, as people do not live up to their expectations. Yet, none of them have ever considered that they are the problem, in these relationships. It is always the other person's fault. Similar kinds of people go into the workplace and complain about their toxic bosses who expect them to get to work on time, and do their job. The gall of managers.
Everyone is hell bent on getting a "victim label" to explain why they shouldn't have to do things, that they expect other people to do. It seems that 50% of people these days identify as having autism, ADHD, or OCD. And the same people seem to apply this quite selectively, where they want to be treated like everyone else when it benefits them, but want to get special treatment when it harms them.
Pick a lane.
But picking a lane would require commitment, and commitment scares them, which is part of the reason so many of the relationships don't have a chance from the start. But, rather than taking a step back and having a look at the situation objectively, then having a look in the mirror at one's own attitudes and behaviours, the victims decide it is all someone else's problem, and the solution is up tom someone else as well. While they take a position of "independence" they are simultaneously looking for a saviour to provide solutions for them.
The irony.
Over the years (and well before writing on Hive), I have made a lot of "bold" predictions about the trajectory of human behaviours. A lot of them were "shot down" at the time because I didn't have data to back it up. But the funny thing is, the data didn't exist, because a lot of the studies hadn't been done. People seemed to assume that this meant that my predictions were invalid, but what it actually meant was they weren't yet validated. An invalidated prediction is just a hypothesis that needs to be tested, but I didn't have the capabilities to do the testing myself, so mine were all just observational and based on my own reasoning.
Useless apparently.
But it speaks to how controlled most people are, because we are constantly waiting for someone to tell us what to think, before we do any thinking for ourselves. We want to have our thoughts validated before we have thoughts. We don't want to be wrong, let alone be publicly wrong by having an unvalidated opinion, so we constantly reference the findings of others as a protection mechanism, because we can be "right" with them and if proven wrong later, we can say that we were right based on the "best information at the time".
Nope. It wasn't likely the best information.
All information is just information that can be right or wrong. For me, I am not going to wait until some psychologist writes a book before I act on what I have already observed. I am not going to wait until the government bans social media for children, before I ban it for my child. I am not going to wait for the health authority to say to limit junk food, or to exercise more, before I do these things for myself after watching people get fat, sick and unable to climb stairs from eating junk food and not exercising.
We have been conditioned to listen to authority.
But what this has meant is that we don't think for ourselves first. This means that we can blame the authority when they tell us wrong and maintain our sense of victimhood. Yet, we do not question what authority we are listening to, their actual expertise on a matter, or whether they have alternate agendas.
Who is to blame?
Take a look around at your environment, the people in it, the strangers on the street, the way people talk to each other, drive their cars, move through a supermarket. Watch people's faces when they are alone, when they are with others, when they are staring at their phone. Look at them at the gym, on the bus, and as they walk past your home. Pay attention to the world, make some predictions, and
change your fucking life.
Taraz
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Changing my damn life, yeah, I'm trying, but I haven't had the guts to make bold decisions due to fear. Okay, but I'm gonna start paying attention to the street. I know that when I go out, there are 6 guys on the sidewalk, and none of them communicate with each other
Changing my damn life... yeah, I'm trying, but I haven't had the guts to make bold decisions due to fear. Okay, but I'm gonna start paying attention to the street. You know, when I walk, there are 6 guys on the sidewalk, and none of them communicate with each other, even though they're all stuck on their damn phones.
Attention deficit, looking for it on a damn phone, seeking attention. Digital... look at me right now, that's what I'm doing.
People blame others for their misfortunes. I have some single girls who are that way because they've decided to be, and there aren't any men around... or so they say the ones available aren't worth it. But are men really the problem, or is it something else?
Hmm... I think it's the opposite... they expect a lot with little to offer... I mean, a nice young body... if that's not there, what are you waiting for, a monk? Jaaaaaaa
Probably a bit of both. But, the thing with relationships, for anyone to change for them, they have to be in them. :)
Exactly, her conduct is a little brave, and men too.
I always have my own opinion and am not afraid to state it publicly. I am often wrong :) But I still state it, I do use external data if available to try to support my theories. I don't think it comes from insecurity, but rather from knowing that others might actually listen if I cite supporting sources that are legitimate.
But stated or un-stated opinions are like assholes, everyone has one 😆
That's how you learn more stuff though right :D
Nothing wrong with being wrong. I far rather speak to people who have an opinion, than are too afraid to commit to anything in case they are wrong. Too many only have an opinion, when it comes from someone else.
Haha, as someone who does a lot of shooting down for reasons of data, I don't have a problem with your observational skills, but I think you also need to understand that you have your own biases that influence what you observe AND you can only observe a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population in your life... we know that both you and Smallsteps can watch the exact same thing, but come away with very different opinions on it because of the biases of your previous experiences. Of the two of you, who observed the event more correctly?
You clearly have a bias that younger people are lazy, soft and pathetic and so that's going to affect everything you observe and the media you're drawn to.
I would say that people have always had ADHD, etc, but now doctors are way better at identifying it and treating it, which is making people more productive and more resilient. It's not a victim label, it's a tool for managing your life to get out of it what you want.
I've mentioned this before, but I don't think it's social media that's making people less social, it's the lack of parks, libraries, skate parks, shopping centers, public transport, piazzas, walkable cities, etc where people can just hang out in public. It's so hard for people to hang out without spending money, and I truly think that people are going to start to realize that Europe is a much better place to live than the US for exactly this reason.
I completely understand I have my own biases, influences and that there is also an availability and selection bias.
I have this bias through observation over the space of years, starting from when I was a child myself. It isn't an "old man rant" as you might see it. What you don't know, as you only have a few years of observation of me, is that I have always been this way. :)
I disagree. It is being well and truly over diagnosed all around the world - in western countries at least. A lot of the ADHD markers are learned behaviours through environmental conditioning. Attention has dropped off a cliff in the last decade and a bit. This isn't a case of better diagnoses.
Yes. But the problem I have with this is that Europe is having social problems also, even though there are places for people to socialise. Finns are getting worse, and they were bad to begin with, even though there are plenty of places to actually socialise.
Hahahaha, that's why you're so good at it.. you've had decades of experience at old man rants, haha.
Totally hear your disagreement, but I think you're talking about correlation not causation. Attention has fallen off a cliff, no argument there, but I don't think that results in more diagnoses. My attention span is worse than it was, but I'm confident I wouldn't be diagnosed with ADHD, ADD, etc because I don't have any other symptoms.
How could you possibly know ADHD, etc is absolutely being over diagnosed throughout the Western world? What possible data could back up this claim?
I think an additional problem is that Covid deletes the immune system and attacks blood vessels, causing heart attacks, strokes and cognitive decline - so everyone's brains have likely been damaged to one degree or another, especially if they've had multiple infections.
Could the Finns be getting worse because their next door neighbours are trying to declare war with the entire continent?
Hey, I haven't read it all, but a minute or two ago a friend of mine dropped me some X link and it seems like it might be connected to this conversation a bit. I will read it later. For the record - I don't use X, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok or anything else. So this kind of stuff only gets sent to me :)
It is indeed always funny to see how people never look at their own behaviour and always blame somebody else. That's a lesson I try to teach my kids. When the explain when something went wrong they also have external factors in their story. When I do point this out and asked if they could have done something different or if they were the one to blame, they sometimes look confused. Am I talking about kids of 17 and 13.
I try to learn them to reflect themselves.
The same is valid for the following. When people behave differently people quickly do give that action, behabiour or looks the term strange. So from a young age, I did focus on the difference between different and strange. There is a very tine line in between those 2. But it is easier to see everything as strange than different. Once you can see it as different a complete new world opens up.
You are victim blaming! It is never the fault of the person who feels they are a victim! ;)
Yeah, I like how you have framed the different and strange concept. I try to do this with my daughter in regards to new foods.
Never tried that with food. But I have to be honest, my oldest son does taste everything. He loves to taste new things and is always open minded about it.
Myself and the youngest, we have made up our mind before we did taste it 🤦♂️
Ha!
My wife has started reading a book called Stop Letting Everything Affect You. Actually she listened to it on audiobook and then she liked it so much she wanted to get a hard copy of it to keep on hand. Which coming from a mental health professional I think speaks volumes. I know even though I didn't grow up in the social generation I have fallen into the trap of writing an email and sending it off thinking I would feel good about what I just said, only to regret it after the fact realizing I was just being petty.
It is really easy to step into the frame of victim and "revenge taker" without realising it comes at a cost.
These days relationship are temporary. Peopl build relation over social media and end up exploited. On the side those who were arranged end up with extra marital affairs as partner unable to give time to each mostly they spend time social media. There are many instances reported but self realization of their mistakes never comes up. I think people should decide their limit and and time to time evaluate what is lacking rather than focusing more on the virtual world.
Yes. They all are. But now the "temporary" means they aren't even committed enough to care what the other person thinks or feels.
Yes that what I meant..only for namesake or due to socital obligation they are into any relationship, else they are content with themselves..
You don't need a government ban to realize social media is rotting your focus ,you just have to pay attention to how you feel after using it
Yep. But people only pay attention while they are doing things. Live in the moment, don't reflect on the moment lived.
How I hate when my students do that. When I was younger, all the task that I leave them now, I had to do it on time without justification.
They think it makes their lives easier - let look how mental health has declined. There is a connection.
change your fucking life.
yep
Seems so easy.
Say we have been so consumed by our own stories that we overlook how crucial empathy and connection really are.
Stories make our life experience, don't they? We can never know the full truth. But, I think it is silly when people defer their own experience in life until someone of authority says it is okay.
Low attention span is affecting all areas of our lives. We are not longer patient to make relationships work, small misunderstanding we are out. Everyone is always comparing their lives with one another. Thanks to social media, we just spot a popular figure living their best life and we feel that is how average ones are supposed to live too.
off to swipe for the next relationship.
Cheers.