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RE: Common sense about the measles outbreaks.

it seems we definitely share the ideal of the scientific method! it just seems we came to vastly different conclusions on the specifics.

either because we looked at different pieces of evidence, or we presupposed and assumed too much of what we set out to prove. as i said i feel comfortable saying i don't know, and i am always keen to change my mind when somebody can make a good case rather than using logical fallacies.

although it took months and even years of study i did end up finding the flaws in both popular cosmologies to my satisfaction, the one you are defending and the one you are criticizing. both cosmologies are wrong, and any scientist worth his salt would have gotten to the same conclusion had he only put in the work.

maybe you were tricked by one of the many false honeypot idiots out there giving giving "the flat earthers" a bad name on purpose. many if not most who call themselves flat earthers have made terrible arguments and false statements - and many of them on purpose. in order to dissuade and confuse people like you.

the concept of controlled opposition is as valid as it always has been and as long as people fall for it humanity will be divided.

so either you know something i don't - which is ENTIRELY possible (!!!!) or you have tried to appeal to a reality frame example you have obviously NOT studied enough yourself in order to convince someone who HAS studied it at length. to then somehow take that inference and make your case about the topic at hand here - which is quite weak were that to be the case. come to think of it i should check your text for AI now.

Alright you passed, great! Ah enough of the cosmology, i am just saying none of us know what's going on here and some arguments suffice to some, and to other people those same arguments do not.

That all said.... please do know that I appreciate your comment and to have access to someone who not only shares the scientific method ideal but who seems to mean it, coming from the more "mainstream" point of view.

if i feel the "pathogenic viruses exist" camp does not respond to the criticisms coming from that dub i am working on, i may be able to use your best criticisms of it to see the logical flaw in my own thinking and therefore I will have greatly benefitted from your expertise and knowledge, allowing me to change my mind and to not claim any longer that pathogenic viruses do not exist.

I simply like to find the catch in things.

sorry dude, I will stop spamming you now,

blessings